Outskirts Overland Podcast
Welcome to the Outskirts Overland Podcast, your go-to source for all things overlanding! Hosted by a seasoned adventurer with over 15 years of experience, this podcast offers a genuine and down-to-earth exploration of the overlanding lifestyle. Whether you're a seasoned traveler or just starting out, join us as we delve into the essentials of gear and equipment, share captivating stories from the road, and provide practical tips for your next adventure. Tune in for insightful interviews, expert advice, and a community of like-minded explorers who share a passion for discovering the world beyond the beaten path. Get ready to fuel your wanderlust and embark on unforgettable journeys with the Outskirts Overland Podcast!
Outskirts Overland Podcast
Why I'm Sticking to Pure Overlanding When Others Are Branching Out
Buckle up for a candid conversation about the evolving landscape of overlanding as we navigate what appears to be a pivotal transition year for the community. After taking a brief mental health break (yes, even podcast hosts need those occasionally), I'm diving into the noticeable shifts happening within the overland world that deserve your attention.
Something remarkable is happening across overland content platforms. Many dedicated creators are diversifying beyond pure overlanding into adjacent activities like kayaking, mountain biking, and ultramarathons. While I fully support well-rounded outdoor lifestyles, this shift raises important questions about what truly constitutes overlanding versus general outdoor recreation. For me, overlanding remains fundamentally about travel, exploration, remote camping, and self-reliance—the journey itself rather than destination activities.
Perhaps more urgently, we're witnessing unprecedented supply chain challenges affecting gear availability. Rooftop tents, storage solutions, and specialized equipment now come with 8-12 week lead times. Some manufacturers have shifted to pre-order models with uncertain delivery dates—a stark contrast to the readily available inventory of recent years. I share my personal rooftop tent dilemma and recent re-gearing experience to illustrate how these challenges affect real-world decisions.
This changing gear landscape disproportionately impacts newcomers to overlanding. Those who entered during the accessible years of 2020-2021 face new barriers, while veterans with established setups maintain an advantage. We may see a return to DIY solutions and adapted traditional camping equipment as the community works with what's available rather than waiting for specific premium items.
Despite these challenges, remember that manufacturer investment in overland-oriented vehicles has reached unprecedented levels. The core community remains passionate and resourceful. I'm committed to staying focused on pure overlanding content when others diversify, and to sharing practical insights about gear availability and alternatives. Have questions about specific equipment or solutions? Reach out directly—helping fellow overlanders navigate these changes is exactly why this podcast exists.
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Speaker 2:Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, welcome to Outskirts Overland. It's Charlie I have taken. So a couple different things have happened. But first it's National Tourism Day and, as most of us travel, I think that's a relevant day. National Tourism Day is a great holiday for those of us to travel.
Speaker 2:So I took a couple of days off the podcast. I was actually the Blues played Sunday and lost in double overtime ending their season. I there's a few different things that I was just pretty bummed out. To be real honest, I wasn't in the greatest mood so it wasn't going to sound too positive. So I kind of just took a couple of days off the podcast to sit with that and so, whether or not you think that's insane or not, that's just what it was. They were up by two with like two minutes left and then scored two goals to tie with them. Then they went into overtime and then double overtime and ends up actually losing. So I was pretty beat after that, emotionally, after that emotionally. So I just decided to take a day off.
Speaker 2:And then I, you know, I drove my truck. I don't drive my truck a lot. I drove my truck yesterday, you know, which usually will kind of pep me up a little bit, weather was nice. I needed a couple of days, though. I just needed a couple of days because I was just so bummed Because, again, we had tickets for the playoffs and the way a playoff ticket works is like, as they advance your tickets you would have been at the game. You know pretty much coming up this week and, uh, round in the season, I don't want to say just didn't work out. So it was a bummer, to say the least.
Speaker 2:Days off just to be like you know, kind of just sit with it. Honestly, it sounds crazy, but like, pretty invested, like at my house, pretty invested. My girlfriend is a huge hockey fan and as we have tickets, I've been to I don't know any hockey games this year. I watch them all Like I was really invested. They were making crazy turnarounds. Don't know any hockey games this year. I watch them all like I was really invested in there make a crazy turnaround. So anyway, it's not a hockey podcast, but it just was like damn, that stinks. So but I did try to at least put out some content for you guys. I got my truck build list up yesterday. I've put out a couple different posts which you know. When I don't do the podcast. It does allow me a little more time for social media, which I think I need to have a mix of both, so it helps.
Speaker 2:But if you guys could podcast a ton, you guys could go leave a review or rate the podcast on Apple podcasts, I'd really really appreciate it. Some of you guys are rating it on Spotify and Amazon. Yeah, do that too, Like I love that. The algorithm a lot of times just pushed by Apple because Apple is the largest. But if you guys would just go rate the podcast, leave a review, I really appreciate it a lot so much. So just rate the podcast, leave a review, I really appreciate it a lot so much. So just, uh, if you guys could do that, I'd really appreciate it. If you guys have any questions, comments or concerns, things you want me to know, you can text the podcast. It's right at the bottom. You can also email me, charlie, at outskirtsoverlandcom, and find me on all social medias at outskirtsoverland, and I do appreciate you guys.
Speaker 2:And I can't tell you enough how much this podcast I guess, if success is graded on popularity and ranking, this podcast has been far more successful than I would have ever believed it to be. And again. Guys, I have I'm on my phone, I have a hotspot in the car and two mics that aren't even the good ones. The audio's there. Like you guys, just listen, and I appreciate you Like it's.
Speaker 2:I by far probably have the best ranking podcast of anybody ever, with the work and quality I put out for you guys. I think the content's the quality, honestly. So, as far as overlanding is going, let's get. Let's get into that. Um, and just what, what's going on? Just over the weekend, I've seen three, or just over the weekend I've seen three or four people post new videos. What I think is happening, though, is that everybody, including like you can all like there's a lot to do and film and talk about. There's a lot to do and talk about on subjects, but there's always and I've talked about this with people like, if you're going to have a turnover every couple of years, you know. So I don't think there's a problem with like rehashing some of the beginning of the year or you're going to have a
Speaker 2:turnover every couple of years, you know. Then it falls off. So I think that there is definitely. I think there's definitely something to be kind of just if you could do it just kind of retouching on some content you had earlier. Even taking a couple of days off the podcast was still performing Cause I think people are going back, like if I'm not posting as much, people tend to.
Speaker 2:It seems to me too, and I used to touch on like a pretty every week before I was doing the daily is. But I've now touched on sorry, I just dump truck Slam on the brakes in front of me. I recently have had a lot of. I recently have had a lot of stuff that's just daily stuff, but I did use to have big content about a larger subject pretty regularly. I haven't been talking about that much because I've just gotten a lot of good feedback about the dailies. So, anyways, lots of content coming out, but I'm seeing a lot more cross.
Speaker 2:How do I explain this? There's just a lot more people talking about more than overlanding. Like there's kayaking, there's you know, all this there's, there's I I don't even want all this other stuff, but there's like kayaking, e-biking, mountain biking, like a lot of people are integrating more outdoor hobbies away from just out doors, and it's not. I always struggle with how to explain myself without coming off the wrong way, but like, overlanding is travel. Okay, so overlanding is travel. Off-roading is not overlanding. Technically Now do they all overlap a good bit, or to some extent, yes, but once you get into driving your truck somewhere to hike or to like that that is, that is definitely outdoor activity and I definitely promote outdoor activity. That's just not what my my podcast just isn't going to be about. That. My podcast isn't going to whether or not I liked a mountain bike or kayak or float or whatever that may be an activity that's more of a event for my like in the middle of my travel. But the travel, the exploration and the camping, you know as it goes with it, sleeping, you know set up and stuff.
Speaker 2:So I see Overland content. You know I say Overland content. It's always going to be so. I see overland content. You know I say overland content, it's not overland content, as I see content shifting towards a lot to fill the content. That just not. That's just not going to be where I'm at, because I'm not experienced enough in anything else I do to be providing any advice. You know that, like if, if it was mountain biking I have a friend that's way more experienced than that If it was kayaking. I have friends that I'm like they need to have a podcast about that and gear associated with that and planning trips for that, what that looks like, and bounce for that for your vehicle, vehicle like how to travel to to facilitate that hobby. That's just not where I'm gonna be.
Speaker 2:So as I look at the content, I'm like man, even more so now than ever. You know, keeping it, keeping it what it is. I was just listening to there's a podcast up now on x overland and I think overland journal too, because I said it earlier, they merged. I actually announced that before they announced it, to be honest with you guys. Um, so, but they're now the overland collective and they had talked about when overlanding in the united states. You know, quote unquote got big, you know started that they were like man, we're worried about it losing its. We're worried about losing its, its true, its true purpose, which is essentially international travel.
Speaker 2:Now I do it only in North America, I don't do it full time, I don't do it for long periods due to restrictions on kids and stuff, which, again, lots of people do it with kids. I make a lot of sacrifices to do as much as I do, but by no means would I act like I make the sacrifices that your international travelers make with their families and stuff. So just to be clear, like they they do a lot, it's just not what I can facilitate myself. So I do the most I can with the time I have and I do off-road. But you guys have even heard me Like off-roading's really not. I don't want to get stuck places getting to a nice camp, but off-roading is far from a priority of mine.
Speaker 2:When I go out Sometimes you need it, I mean you need a capable vehicle to get around, but I'm not trying to have to, you know, really be using half the stuff I have. I have it, you know need have, I have it. You know need it and have it, not need it and need it, not have it mentality. But I guess where I'm headed with this is like a lot of the overland content I'm not even interested in anymore, and I say overland because it previously was big overland channels, because now all it is it's turned into, you know, multi Faceted things that I don't have, like I don't have, you know, youtube and that I enjoy photography and good photography and good filmmaking, but that already is part of YouTube. So I enjoy photography and good photography and good filmmaking, but that already is part of YouTube.
Speaker 2:So I said, I guess, as far as other hobbies incorporated, that I have any interest in. That's about it, like the travel, the camping and the you know, cinematic shots and places and stuff just inspires me. So, yeah, I, I'm still just gonna be here just doing overland. If you guys want to learn about, I don't know, kayaking or I mean just anything. That's not just this. I'm not the guy like I'm just not. I know some stuff, but it's not. I'm not gonna act like I'm should be a person that should be giving you any information about it. If I'm asking other people for advice and information about it, it's not something I'm podcasting about or distributing information about, because I don't feel like I would be the right person for that.
Speaker 2:Anyways, so right now, for me, the big thing that's going on is I'm in this conundrum where I went from a fold-out rooftop tent to a wedge-style rooftop tent, my 23-0 Kabari light. I like the tent a lot. I do like the tent a lot and I just would like a little man. I just wish it was a little like so me and my girlfriend go and it's a slit. I mean neither of us are tall, so that doesn't matter. It's like 46 inches wide on the inside for two of us to sleep and that's fine. I mean that's at the end of the world. I just wish it was a little bit wider. And it is you from. Like it's just a. There's a lot, there's a lot of rooftop tents out there, right like mine's. 46 inches I'd be cool with even like 52, 53, but you go straight to like 60 and that might not sound like a lot to you guys, but like 60 inches is freaking another 10 inches and that sticks out.
Speaker 2:I got awnings and all this other stuff. I've talked about it before. It's even on the exterior of the vehicle. Like it's all tetris. It's just all tetris. Make it measuring, making it all fit. Know, I have a tape measure out a lot on this truck just to get a feel for like what is it? What is that? How does this fit? How's it gonna fit? You know I want most of my stuff, you know, kind of tight, because in the when you're off camber.
Speaker 2:I don't want my tent to be the first thing that hits on on the dirt off camber on the side, or even my awning for that matter. And if you get a wider tent you're moving it all out. That's just, unfortunately, that's just the way that is and that's what's happening. So I don't want a new rooftop tent, but I don't know. I'm at a place where I don't know if I'm settling with what I have or if it still is just the best that I can get for what I want. You know, because I don't want it to be super tall, I don't want to fold out, I don't want to be too wide, but I want wider. You know, and I talk about it a lot, like sometimes what I want just isn't there, like it's just not there, and I mean even the 10 I have right now.
Speaker 2:A lot of people don't want to be completely honest, you know, um, because it's so thin and it's it's. It's shorter and narrower and thin, you know. So I mean, I'm sold on a wedge, no doubt about that. That's four positive. That's the only way I'll ever go, unless I went with a swag. And for those of you who don't know what a swag is, google swag tent, you'll find a bunch. They're real popular in Australia, but they're coming to. I mean not coming to. They're real popular in australia but they're coming to. I mean not coming to. They're in the us now too. I don't see very many of them, but they're they're. Essentially you can get a one or a two person kind of like wedge style, like not wedge style, but wedge size, but for the ground, and they go up really easy. They pack up pretty easy.
Speaker 2:Um, I do, and you guys know this if you've listened for any amount of time I I am a big fan of rooftop tents, not for like a clout reason or like I'm a kooky because I have one, like I.
Speaker 2:Really the ground can be cold or hot and I just like being off the ground, and now that I have a rack and the air flows under the tent and over the tent, it is just a lot.
Speaker 2:It's just a lot nicer for me, I enjoy it more, and the diesel heater makes it pretty damn easy to keep it warm, and so then really, the only time you're trying to regulate it through the tent is getting the hot, and so rooftop tent to me makes is the best of that, most comfortable, you know, as far as space, time and everything else, I do think the pullout ones, the like actually the soft top pullout ones, just due to what you could put in them, but they stick up a foot off your vehicle, which which, if that doesn't matter, like if you've got a half rack on a truck and that's rocking what you've got like highly recommend a soft top rooftop tent.
Speaker 2:They're so comfortable, they're nice and so comfortable For me. Again, you know, I wanted something that I could put up quicker, because sometimes, just for the sake of emergency, like I want to be able to get out quicker, so I want to relax quick too, like I want to get to relaxing, you know, pretty immediately. So, like, for all of the reasons, like for safety and everything else, I prefer a wedge. But other than that, you know, I think there's a lot of comfort benefits if your son doesn't have the safety concerns or else it's going on.
Speaker 2:I think that you could pretty much get a lot of different ones hard shell and soft shell. That would be real comfortable and nice for you. I think probably one of the nicer tents to sleep in period is the 23-0. Is it walkabout? I think it's like a 62 or a 67. It's all blackout fabric, real high quality, really nice and comfortable, just great tent.
Speaker 2:But again, it takes time to get out and set up and take down the cover's kind of a pain. You got to zip it up a little bit. You know it's not 30 seconds and we all want more for we want more, more tent for less money and faster setup and better materials. And I mean you can't, you can't have it all, but we all want it all you know. So I've been in that situation where, like I really like my tent, I just wish, and 23.0 makes other tents.
Speaker 2:But here's another subject. Like I've been looking on 23.0 recently because I do like my tent and because of whatever's coming down the pipe about important stuff, it is hard to you don't know when stuff like stuff's out a long ways. Right now, like rooftop 10 companies are saying two months out, you know, due to the potential tariffs or or or shipping delays that they don't know about yet and stuff. I'm gonna go through the car washing and guys. So if you hear that, just I'm sorry. So that's tough too, like I mean, I guess what I'm saying is if you got. I guess what I would say is if you got, so I have one, like luckily enough, I have a tent.
Speaker 2:If you're looking for a tent right now, a rooftop tent, and you can get ahold of one new or get a hold of one on Facebook Marketplace, I'm not saying it would behoove you to hop on that if you're not ready to, but it does appear there's going to be some problems this year If you want one this year. There's going to be some problems this year getting them, and this year there's going to be some problems this year getting them. So I would take that into consideration. Maybe a used one or seeing what people have in stock might be what's best for you, even if it's not exactly what you want, based on other stuff you've seen online or whatever. We might be at a supply and demand type issue here pretty shortly, you know.
Speaker 2:Then, here I am on some really super specific, a little bit wider of the same thing. I already have. You know, kind of kind of one of those situations where I'm I'm I'm slightly unhappy with something that a lot of people would love to have, and I'm completely aware of that. So I'm keeping what I have for now. But I have been on the lookout and it just has put me back in the I don't know about in the market. But like just back on the research of like what's out there, what's new, what are the specs, and I just have very realistically noticed that it's very, it's very, it's a very interesting time, like even when I got my first rooftop tent.
Speaker 2:I think in 2020, like they were still real expensive. They're relatively new to like it was like two weeks to get it, like two weeks even then, like they were new to kind of coming out then. So it's a weird time where you're looking at eight weeks, 12 weeks lead times. I've never been at a scene where you've got to put a deposit down lead times putting. I've never been at a scene where you've got to put a deposit down, like some people are taking deposits right now to hold, like so when a tent does finally get here, they, you know like almost like it's pre-order, versus buying what's in stock.
Speaker 1:It's more like a pre-order kind of deal.
Speaker 2:And that's a lot of brands and some brands.
Speaker 1:I am only aware of are made in the US, but they are $1,000. So that's tough too, while we're all dealing with everything going on prices increasing potentially, there's a lot of scare.
Speaker 2:There's a lot of scare, you know there's a lot of unknowns. So, um, not that I wanted this to necessarily be my topic or to get into it too much, but it's definitely a thing right now and, as I look at like everything else, like that people buy, like cases, uh, a lot of the metal that all of our gear is like, like our sliders and like that stuff's all going up and becoming a little like. There's some sort of just a bit. I'm just seeing it discussed a lot within like forums and fruits on that. Like this is a big deal.
Speaker 1:So it's going to be a weird year, I think, for those of us that are still here. It's going to be an even harder year for those people that couldn't have been in it, I think. But the benefit of that is the people that we picked up in 2020, in 2021, really, I think 2021, honestly, they had the world at their hands.
Speaker 2:Everything was pretty well established, it was out, it was easy to get Like everything was booming, there was stock. I think the people we pick up this year and stick with it, they're going to be kind of in. It's almost going to be a little bit more like you got to be into it Because there's not as much stuff, so you're going to really have to like it. You're going to get a lot more into the like well, I guess I got to build my own stuff, or I got to make this work or some ground tents that aren't even overland style.
Speaker 2:Ground tents are going to be something that I think we see more of this year, like backpacking or traditional tent, camping tents, and which I don't think is a bad thing. It just for me, who's gotten essentially too fancy bougie, gucci, whatever you want to call it like it's a little unfortunate. For me it meant like it's unfortunate, like sometimes I want to, like I save money, like guys like I save money to buy stuff and like like luckily, right this moment, um, I didn't save money for something I couldn't get but here's another example like I got nitro gears in my truck.
Speaker 2:I just nitro gears were just put in my truck. Okay, I wanted yukon gears. Nitro gear is out of business, but nitro stock and nitro gears was available in stock for my truck. Like, having them in stock for Yukon wasn't available. What are gears made out of metal? Like this was like I don't know that. I want to say I lucked out, but I was almost in a situation where my truck was at the shop and gears that were available three weeks ago, you know, aren't even available, with no concept of when they're going to be available either. Like they couldn't tell me like, oh, we'll have them in two. Like it was like we don't have these, we don't know when we're going to have them. Yeah, you know, but luckily the distributor had some nitros in stock for the truck, but again, because the company's out of business, you're taking you know that's that's a gamble Some people don't want to take two. I mean, yeah, you know, I got a reputable shop putting them in. I don't think the gears are going to. Uh, yeah, I just had a really good guy put them in and they could have been rock auto gears, quite frankly, and it probably would have been fine for a long time. But nitro is still a quality brand. They just they just aren't around anymore. They just went out of business recently. But you know, a year ago I could have had them in and they would have went out of business. You know I'm out of warranty then too. So but yeah, uconn gears weren't available. I've wanted uconn's. They weren't available. Um, for my truck. They may still be available for your application.
Speaker 2:I think re-gearing a tacoma is, like, extremely popular because the transmission and shift points and horsepower and just there that just needs it, needs it pretty bad. It should really be one of the earlier things you do. Even if you don't overland or off-road, you should re-gear your Tacoma. So, yeah, but that was a situation I just came upon. I got lucky enough to get something, you know, something of quality, just a different brand, but I think that's going to be the same thing across the board. Like all these hard cases that we've all grown to like, like these Rome cases, 23-0 cases, all of that stuff I think is going to be harder to get and they're super nice. Like we've kind of got used to some of these products that are out and they're, like, really nice and convenient, but I think they're going to be harder to get here like now, like right now actually. So, finding companies that have stuff in stocks about to be like the underground, you know like we almost need like Overland Underground as a group like, oh, they got fridges in stock. You know like power stations are on sale, this company has a ton. I think that Amazon's about to be a huge pain in the butt because all their stuff is imported almost I think most of it and it's about to either get real expensive or there's no more. You know, prime is something we've also become accustomed to to, where we, like, are used to getting stuff in a day or two or a week, you know, and that's probably going to stop pretty soon.
Speaker 2:It seems like just a weird time. I mean, I wanted to talk about it because two things you know, like I talked about. To wrap it up, like lots of people that previously did only overlaying content seemingly aren't doing that anymore. They're they're kind of going back and forth, whether it's back to guns, where they were before, back to EDC, where they were before, back to maybe off-grid living like they were before. A lot of people that were in off-grid living, used the opportunity to travel, to get away. People are kind of going back into their. They're either reverting back or they're getting into something else, thinking that popularity is falling off.
Speaker 2:Content creators are chasing where content's going, but I've seen way more kayaking, hiking through, hiking, ultra marathons, even high rocks, which is like more running crossfit, like I've seen people that were previously like all travel, all camping, all overlanding, like essentially doing other stuff now, which I think is good, be a well-rounded human, like by all means. But as I think youtube specifically drives most people to get into this hobby, there's less and less of it and I think all the time right now and I think that's I there's less and less of it and I think all the time right now, and I think that's I think there's some positives to it, but I think if you're somebody that like seriously, like even just last year, there was way more content, so there's a great backlog of content as well, but I do feel like there is going to be it's just going to be a transitional year. Like there is going to be, it's just going to be a transitional year, and I don't know what next year will bring. We got I think we've got the most manufacturer backed products now from like Ford, chevy, toyota, like they're getting into the overland community and off-road community and I think that we've got a lot more buy-in from those companies, as I think it takes time to get into it like development and licenses and approvals and different things from all the rigmarole that comes with that crash tests and whatnot. But I think that with that having peaked, finally, like it's way behind the curve, I think it's going to be a really interesting year. I don't think we're ever going to go back to, you know, 2019 and prior, but I think we're going to be in a it's definitely.
Speaker 2:I'm already seeing this year be transitional in the fact of, like anytime there's a little conflict, you know, anytime there's it's a little harder to get something. Anytime there's it's a little harder to get something people tend to not want to, like ease of use type thing. Like ease of accessibility helps a lot and with, you know, with less accessibility to some of the stuff, you will even see on other people's stuff that they built earlier, other creators from previous, like if you were trying to get in now to get that stuff, it's gonna be harder to obtain and I think we're gonna see companies this year go away. I think we're gonna see some companies not make it through the year gear companies, you know, lucky enough we've got overland of america and some of these community events that are like awesome and some products, that community events that are like awesome and some products that are in stock and stuff like that. But there's a lot of unknowns right now and I can already see it affecting like shipping times and prices already on stuff that was already expensive, like already costs. You know as much as it should cost before. So it's going to be a transitional year.
Speaker 2:So if you guys hang out with me here, like I said, I've been doing this since 2006, seven, I mean I'm not going anywhere. So I mean you guys can at least come here and ask me questions and I'll still talk pretty much about this. That's what I'll talk about all the time. I'm not trying to say any content creator that's doing something different or shooting off into different categories or subcategories is problematic. Like I, you know, do what you do guys like, and you guys may know a lot more about broad spectrum of things than I do other people. But if you guys are looking for overlaying content, what's going on here. Nothing's changing here and I guess I only feel that I need to say that because I've been watching people that I've watched. I just even the last two days. I've watched people I've watched for years and didn't finish videos.
Speaker 2:I was like I don't care about this. Like even gear reviews I appreciate more than like we're going to take a gravel road to go find this lake and kayak. Like that's cool, I guess, if you like to do that, like I like to be more off the beaten path and cool views and good camping and campfires and cooking. I don't particularly like to cook, but I like to watch people that do a good job cooking and that just seemingly, is deteriorating. Maybe, maybe I'm completely wrong. I hope I'm wrong for my own entertainment sake. Like I pay for YouTube premium and I'm contemplating not even doing that anymore, cause I'm finding myself back on Netflix again to watch anything. I'm finding myself back on Netflix again to watch anything, cause there just isn't, as the content's just not. I'm like man, it's like it used to be, almost I'm back on the internet learning about stuff again, like reading about it. So, anyways, I'll be here for you guys.
Speaker 2:Ask me any questions you want, if you guys and again guys, I like researching this stuff, so. So there's a couple of people that reach out to me regularly with questions not regularly, but sometimes with questions. I'm super quick, I love this stuff. So if you guys have any questions, if you're like, hey, I was looking at this piece of gear, what do you think? I may A I'm going to learn about that piece of gear first off to try and help you out. I'll address it too. But I may also find something that I believe is the same thing but better, and maybe not so much more expensive if it's more expensive at all. It might even just be completely different. So don't hesitate to reach out for me, because that's where my experience shines. Like. My experience 150% shines there. Like, ask me a question I haven't discussed, it's probably, it's very likely I might have an answer for you or a different solution or a trick, and I just haven't talked about it because I haven't thought about it. Like you might bring it to my attention that I should even address it. So don't hesitate to reach out to me for those things.
Speaker 2:I will be trying to keep a pulse on the space, like, who has stuff available? Those things I will be trying to keep a pulse on the space, like who has stuff available, like, unfortunately, I am an individual that has um, I'm on like freaking every company's email list and, because of the podcast, I keep up with what those emails are saying about what's going on, and so that could be a benefit to you guys too, because that's most people that don't do a podcast or don't like aren't trying to get information out to people. That's junk mail, that's junk. You're unsubscribing, I'm not unsubscribing and I'm reading them and so I can keep you know idea on where stuff's going so I can bring it to you. Like I am today, like stuff's changing, be ready. So, anyways, I'll catch you guys tomorrow. Today, stuff's changing, be ready.
Speaker 2:Anyways, I'll catch you guys tomorrow. I'll talk a little more on it. I'm going to read some stuff today. Get on some forums, really actually, because those are kind of forums and Facebook groups and seeing what people are saying, what's the community saying, what are they noticing. I'll catch you guys later. I'll see you tomorrow. Have a great National Tourist Day, slash Wednesday, and catch you guys later.
