Outskirts Overland Podcast
Welcome to the Outskirts Overland Podcast, your go-to source for all things overlanding! Hosted by a seasoned adventurer with over 15 years of experience, this podcast offers a genuine and down-to-earth exploration of the overlanding lifestyle. Whether you're a seasoned traveler or just starting out, join us as we delve into the essentials of gear and equipment, share captivating stories from the road, and provide practical tips for your next adventure. Tune in for insightful interviews, expert advice, and a community of like-minded explorers who share a passion for discovering the world beyond the beaten path. Get ready to fuel your wanderlust and embark on unforgettable journeys with the Outskirts Overland Podcast!
Outskirts Overland Podcast
Freedom, Fireworks, and Public Land Ethics
Freedom rings through this pre-Fourth of July episode as I reflect on what makes Independence Day my favorite holiday. Unlike celebrations that come with obligations, the Fourth embodies pure American liberty—everyone gets the day off, families gather outdoors, we grill delicious food, and yes, we legally blow stuff up simply because we can. As both a proud veteran and outdoor enthusiast, I cherish how this holiday brings people together through shared appreciation of freedom rather than guilt or obligation.
Speaking of freedom, I'm excited to share that Outskirts apparel is coming soon! Many of you have asked how to support the podcast, and this will be your opportunity to purchase hats, shirts, hoodies, and more featuring various Outskirts designs. Everything will be straightforward—fair prices, no complicated discount codes, just quality gear for those who want it. Consider it my solution to supporting the podcast while getting something tangible in return.
The conversation takes a thoughtful turn toward public land ethics and the sometimes complicated dynamics between different users. From the controversy surrounding people selling GPS coordinates through subscriptions to debates about generator usage in campgrounds, we navigate the delicate balance between individual liberty and community respect. My stance remains consistent: public land belongs to everyone, and the responsibility falls on us individually to create the experience we want rather than expecting others to conform to our preferences. If you don't like generators, find spots generators can't reach. If you prefer solitude, seek places off the beaten path. True freedom means respecting others' right to enjoy these spaces in their own way, even when it differs from our preferences.
Planning your summer adventures? Remember to use code "outskirts" for 10% off tickets to Overland of America (September 12-14), where I'll be hanging out and hope to meet many of you. However you celebrate this Independence Day—whether camping, grilling, or shooting fireworks until dawn—embrace the liberty that makes this country special. After all, that's what makes America's public lands so extraordinary: they belong to all of us.
ladies and gentlemen, it's charlie with hot skirts. Overlay. It's thursday the third, pretty awesome. Tomorrow's the fourth of july. Hopefully, everyone is shooting off fireworks and quote-unquote freedoming. I've got to love it, love it, always, love it. Uh man, fourth july.
Speaker 1:I don't know if I've talked about it much on here, but but 4th of July is probably my favorite holiday because it's seemingly a holiday where, well, we'll see, we'll see. I mean, I'm a very proud American, I'm a very proud veteran, and the 4th of July is one of those holidays where it's like you know, it's not like you're not guilt tripped in there to. You know I'm a veteran, like I said, you're not guilt tripped into thanking somebody, thinking about somebody. Everybody gets the day off. It's typically an outdoor holiday. People shoot stuff off because we can do that here in the United States. Kids have fun, parents have fun, people sit and, you know, have some like they, some camaraderie usually exists with it. Some barbecue, like these are all just things that I love, you know. Like love America, love hanging out with friends, good people eating barbecue, blowing stuff up, like great holiday for me. I pretty regularly tell people probably my favorite holiday and I just love it, even the people that are shooting fireworks till two, three in the morning, whatever. Guys like, yes, that could be annoying, but like, every time I hear it and get annoyed, I'm like, but you can really only do that here. Like, so that's pretty sweet. Like nobody's getting arrested about it, so it's pretty sick. Um, so I just think that's amazing and it's the weather's. At least here in mid-missouri, weather's nice. It's already 80 degrees. So 8 am currently 8 am on Thursday, 81 degrees. Crazy man, crazy, crazy, crazy, crazy. Yesterday got to like 95. Summer is freaking here but it's humid as all human gets, because it's been raining. You know, a lot On and off, but still a lot. I mean, it's wild.
Speaker 1:In other news, I am so not. Never, guys, never am I trying to sell you guys on stuff, but it's. You know, I call it an announcement, call it whatever you want, but making you guys aware, I am currently working on getting my site up to where you guys could buy apparel if you so felt, so inclined. I'll have hats and shirts. I should have hats, shirts, hoodies, tank tops, maybe beanies, maybe not beanies yet, maybe not hoodies yet, I don't know. I'm working with a company that's helping me get it all set up so that you guys could just get on, pick what you like, buy it if you want to buy it, and move on down the road. It has been a I don't know. I get asked. I don't get asked a ton about it, but I get asked sometimes about it Because I don't do Patreon, because I don't do.
Speaker 1:You know, there's no way to support the podcast or me or anybody in any way. I do have people that are like do you sell patches? Do you sell stickers? Do you sell shirts? Like no, until this comes out. No, I've given a lot away and I just made a. I just made a pretty, I just made a pretty decent order. Excuse me, guys, sorry about that. I just made a pretty decent order of stuff to give away to you, but it will be available there for you guys to order. You won't have to wait on an event or me or my ability to ship it to you because I'm so busy. It should all be there. It should pretty well be a one-stop shop for, you know, decals, apparel, whatever you might want.
Speaker 1:I'm going to try and come out with new stuff pretty regularly. For those of you that don't know, I used to. You know, I used to have a couple of. I've had a couple of gyms in the past and we used to do apparel and people would buy stuff and I I enjoy just designing apparel like it's not, like I won't have anything. That's like a crazy saying. Most likely it'll just have the, the pretty well slow, get the slogan on it. I'll try and make new designs that are that are cool, and if I have ideas I'll try, and you know, spitball that on there to my, to my person, the uh, the graphic designer. Let's see what she can do to make it look cool or whatnot. See if it's something you guys even care to have.
Speaker 1:I try to have stuff, stuff, though it should be going up, I don't know week, maybe a week, maybe next week, maybe today, I don't know. We've been working on it. It really just depends on how busy she is. But we're at a point at least with it to where I feel like I can let you guys know that's coming. I'll let you guys know when it drops. By no means any pressure to buy anything. It's going to be a situation where I don't have to stock it, so it'll be prepped to order type stuff. We'll just have it all kind of saved so you guys can do your thing, and then she'll do her thing and get shipped to you guys. So some of it will be screen printed, some of it will be embroidered Just all kinds of different stuff, so that'll be available to you guys.
Speaker 1:I do get asked often how you could support the podcast. I wouldn't. I don't ever want people to send me money ever. That's just not. That's just not for me. So I finally settled that If you guys want to spend some money and get something for it and it helps me out a little bit or helps the podcast out a little bit, I can deal with that. I still haven't even decided if I'm going to let it out, the podcast. I haven't decided if I'm going to profit on it at all. I might just put it all up for sale so that my printer and designer make their money, and I don't I mean I haven't decided yet, I just haven't decided. It's just not. I don't know. I don't know why I feel so guilty about making money in this world we live in today, but I do Now, not at work, though I don't feel guilty about making money at work whatsoever, because that's what I'm there for.
Speaker 1:Off you guys, I appreciate you guys. I like this being free for free type thing, you know so. And just while I'm at it, you know, being a salesman here is what I feel like. You guys can get tickets to outskirts or to uh overland of america it'll be september 12th through the 14th, and you can use outskirts or to uh overland of america. It'll be september 12th through the 14th and you can use outskirts then and it'll save you guys 10 on your tickets. I plan to uh, I plan, hopefully, plan to get the wheel with some of you guys there and looking.
Speaker 1:I'm really looking forward to it honestly. I mean, I've said it a lot but I I'm, I'm looking forward to it. Not, that's not a like, I'm looking forward to it, that's not a like. I'm looking forward to meeting you guys. You know here's. You know I'm Marty Harhar. You know Like I, legitimately I'm really looking forward to that event. I think it's going to be fun Like I want to go, I want to have fun. I think it's going to be great. Hopefully, everybody that comes has a good time. Everybody that comes has a good time. I. I just seems to me like it's gonna be all the things that I like. It just seems like it's gonna be a lot of things that are fun, one off from other stuff and cool place placing in the water. It just all like kind of all of it together seems cool and unique to me.
Speaker 1:So you can use my code and I'll save you 10% there. Um, you guys won't have to worry about uh, with the apparel stuff. There won't be any like discount codes with that or anything. I won't be like, if you listen, to use blah, blah, blah and save more money than what I'm so listed as low as I can or whatever. It'll be what it is and go from there. So don't worry about having to catch some special code. I'm not trying to, you know, trap you guys into listening. If you don't, you know, if you've got time, you listen, and if you don't, you don't. Presses will be what they are. We'll go from there.
Speaker 1:It's kind of just how I roll, and not in a bad way. Just you know, for those of you that have met me or will meet me, there have been people in the past that would say things like about me you know podcast, no podcast, whatever. They'd just be like. You know Charlie's just who he is. Like one speed bike, like there's no changing gears. I'm not too much of like fake, you know, I'm not too much of faking it. I'm not too good at, you know, I don't know I'm not too good at being a chameleon to the room very well, and not in a not a bad way. Just I just am. In order to be authentic, I just have to be myself and I don't ever intend that to be a negative. It just is what it is. So you guys will see that, like there is no, there's usually no like caveat or you know, oh, caught you type situation. So I'm just kind of who I am and that's what it is.
Speaker 1:I do want to tell you guys that today a podcast is coming out on newfound overland with a good friend of mine, um cory, with blind spot adventures, and cory has a youtube channel and cory I mean and it is blind spot adventures and there's a story to that. But I almost so cory's my friend and I almost would ask you guys to go listen to it and, yeah, go support his podcast and stuff. But Corey has a pretty cool story and I almost think it minimizes him to some extent to call him Blindspot Adventures, which that's the name of his channel and he runs that channel. But Corey himself is a pretty, pretty freak, a sick guy. So if you guys get a chance to go listen to that, I'd recommend it. If you want to watch any of his content he does.
Speaker 1:Like his content's a little different. It's not talkative content, it's more cinematic and quiet Things that, like you guys will see when you go to see it. But outside of everything else, like Corey's cooler than Corey himself, is cooler than blind spots. Oh, like Corey's just a cool guy. I really like Corey. We're good friends, we talk on, we talk regularly on the phone, which is actually kind of rare in this day and age. But anyways, I really like Corey. So I hope you guys go listen to that.
Speaker 1:I think, man, I don't want to be making announcements for him Corey may or may not be around me at some stuff in the future, like, just cause you're my friend, like you guys, you know I'll be like guys, this is Corey, Like I'm not gonna try and put him in any awkward situations though, but he he's around. I camp with Corey, you know, and he's a super cool guy and his story is is I don't know that, inspiring is even the word, but it's a good story for people that like like, if you want to do it, like you can do it, type thing, cause you've got him to you, like he kind of invalidates your excuse a little bit, cause he's got some real reasons why maybe stuff might be a little harder and it doesn't slow him down even sorta. So it limits him to something but it's not slowing nothing down. Dude Can't surprise much as I do, so so anyways, go listen to that. He's on new found overland with Benji. Um, they got the chit chat a couple. He's on Newfoundland with Benji. They got the chit chat a couple of weeks ago at an event and Benji asked that month he's on there. I haven't had him on here yet just because I haven't even asked. So but I might.
Speaker 1:You know I sometimes harness my friends a little differently. That doesn't mean that there's anything wrong with him being on the podcast. I just don't want to ask him to be on. I'm good friends with cory. I have another good friend that has his own business in this space and we camp all the time and we talk all the time and I'm not him on either. So I kind of leave it to my friends. Like I know they probably won't want to ask me and I don't want to ask them, so I don't know what to do with that. So you may you guys may or may not ever ever hear on any of my stuff, just cause I don't want to. I don't know. I'm not trying to have my friends feel like I'm exploiting them Cause they're cool too. I mean, they are cool. They're cool in their own stuff like they're. They're blue folks and you know it's. I think I gotta leave with a downpour. If they wanted to be on or if they're interested in having a conversation that I recorded, that'd be. I'd be totally into that.
Speaker 1:So, anyways, go over there and listen to Corey super cool guy. You give him a follow on Instagram or whatever. His videos are really where you'll get the most of his personality, though on YouTube he does it. He's not a. If you guys go look, it'll make sense. If not, like him alighting, it's just more of a silent guide. I don't know how else to explain it, and that comes through unlike well, it's a different thing, but it's just more of a silent guide. I don't know how else to explain it, and that comes through unlike well, it's a different thing, but his you get his self-expression, I feel like, comes through well on his YouTube channel. So I'll leave it at that. You know now that he's grown to the highest of what podcasting is and stuff, he'll probably end up being on at some point, whether it's telling his story, or even just me and him telling stories about stuff we've got or what we're doing or whatever.
Speaker 1:So rendezvous and those artists coming up, guys, I'll be there as well. That's kind of going to be our friend groups trip this year. So I won't be there in any capacity in the podcast or any type of networking. I won't be doing any giveaways, anything like that, but I will be there. So at some point, you know, but I will be there. So at some point, you know, maybe I'll be walking around. You guys might see me.
Speaker 1:If you recognize me, I'm going to try to come over and say hi, not everybody should be able to make it. I know not everybody should be able to make it to Overland or the Rendezvous. They're literally like within the same brief and I don't expect that of anybody. So if you guys make it to Water the Earth, even though I'll pass the podcast, my truck literally says Midwest Adventure Outfitters on the side and it's a. I mean my truck's very identifiable, so, and I'll be gabbing in my truck, so don't hesitate to come over and and say hi, or whatever. You know, have a, have a beverage, have a, you know, eat some food. Whatever, my friend tyson will be there. So I say, eat some food, because tyson, that there will be food, tyson will cook, it's nice and will for sure cook you. Probably every time you come over, tyson will probably be cooking. That's his, that's his jam, so and uh. So that's pretty sweet.
Speaker 1:Speaking of Tyson, I'm a time man. I'm talking about my friends. This whole time, speaking of Tyson, I've had Tyson on um and uh. Me and Tyson are good friends too. We kind of of. We met many years ago doing this. We've only been friends through this hobby, so we're not only through this hobby, but that's how we became friends at all. That's how we met, that's how things came to be.
Speaker 1:But some good things happening for Tyson. So that's good to see that coming around. See, you know, he's getting, he's got a forerunner and he moved from Arkansas to Missouri and I'm not gonna put all his business out there, but he moved from Arkansas to Missouri. When he moved he got rid of a lot of stuff on his forerunner. It seems like he's getting getting his forerunner kind of back where it was, plus some, so that'll be good. He'll be getting out more. He's got a job now that he's off on the weekends. Where he moved it wasn't off on the weekends anymore, so that was kind of. We've camped together a few times in the last year, but not nothing, nothing like we used to.
Speaker 1:So I'm pretty excited. You know, I'm happy for him and uh, man, I'm just happy for him. I still I was like karma just coming around, man, I'm just happy for him. I still I was like karma's just coming around, man, this is good, I'll be happy to see it and see it go well for him. Just yeah, I'm just happy for him. Man, I want to see him get, get his time back, get his, his rig back where he likes it, as things start coming together in a way he's happy with. So that makes me happy too.
Speaker 1:But you guys can listen to Tyson. I think Tyson's been on Budget Overland. I don't know if it's Budget Overland or Newfound Overland. It's the same guy. I think it's Benji. I don't know where Tyson was on, though Tyson's been on here with me. I mean, I don't even know. I mean I could probably have Tyson on every day and we could just. Bs Tyson's is just like Corey Tyson's a good friend of mine, you know, I talk to him pretty regularly, but I probably should have him back on because you guys, I think he he's, he's, he broke the podcast ice a couple of times too here and we could probably have just a good time with you guys on here. But yeah, so I mean I guess just thinking of my friends, because one of them's got a lot of good karma coming his way and the other one just did a podcast that's up today and that's awesome.
Speaker 1:Another friend of mine, zach Outdoors, has some big announcement and I say some big announcement because I don't know what it is, but he had some big announcement coming out tomorrow with some I'm assuming. Don't want to speak outside myself, but Zach Outdoors has an announcement with some companies or something going on tomorrow. So go on over to Zach Outdoors, follow them, see what they got going on Idoors. Follow them, see what they got going on. I definitely want to know what they got going on because they do a lot of hard work too.
Speaker 1:I mean, we're all kind of we all kind of landed ourselves in this world of social media, kind of just by being regulars, I guess, and you get to meet people I mean people that are really into it and people that are doing stuff with it. People that are doing stuff with it, people that are doing good things, people that are doing anything. You know the guys over at Backwoods Adventure Junkies in Oklahoma I saw some of my listeners went over there and followed them. They're doing great things all the time. You know, you meet people and you become friends because you guys all kind of got a similar vision on what's going on and how it should be going on really. So you end up meeting people and you end up with this little, little big, whatever network of folks. Just everybody's trying to. You know everybody's got their shtick, you know. You know, naturally I think I land in the.
Speaker 1:I'm a gear guy, um, you know, naturally I think I land in the. I'm a gear guy, um, I have a lot more to offer than that, but that's what I am most, I think, versed in and that's just from just from building trucks for a while now trucks, cars, suvs, whatever learning a lot, because I don't want to pay for labor or pay for someone else to do my stuff. So I just learned a ton. But every other thing whether it's trail advocacy groups, trail guides, finding trails, finding spots, cooking, you know videography, storytelling, you know, because a guy can be a great storyteller and not as good at taking a video as somebody that's really good at taking a video but doesn't talk, you know, like ASMR type stuff. So I just got friends, that kind of all over the place, which is, I don't know, it's kind of crazy, I don't know, it's just a weird thing.
Speaker 1:I know that my daughter thinks like it's all that kids are on the YouTube. So she's like, hi, are your friends are on YouTube. And I'm like, yeah, my friend, yeah, I mean like, yeah, yeah, that's a thing, and I think the kids nowadays think that's like the coolest thing ever because of Mr Beast and you know all these streamers and stuff. So it's just kind of a it's a weird thing. It's a weird. Weird is not the right word, it's a uh, interesting, I guess. So that's what's going on.
Speaker 1:Fourth of july is coming. Looking forward to that, best believe. I'm camping this weekend. I won't be able to get out until saturday, though, so I am a little skeptical of where I'm going to end up.
Speaker 1:Last year on 4th of July weekend, that's when I wrecked my truck. Wrecked, it isn't the right statement. Truck ran fine, truck drove fine, but I turned it on its side on a rock and tore up some body panels. Nothing mechanical wrong with the truck. I tore up some body panels camping, but it was extremely hot, it was very, very dry, it was extremely hot, it was very, very dry. It was real hot, it was real dry and it wasn't real busy. It's rained quite a bit more. A lot of the spots I went to last year were spots that had had had water or would have had water, had the water been, but if had any rain happened. So they were like desolate because they were just dry spots, dry rock beds.
Speaker 1:You know, I don't know what I'm going to come up with this year. I'll let you guys know on Tuesday. I'm actually going to be camping Monday too, so I'll let you guys know on Tuesday. I don't know, I'll have to see. I'll let you guys know on Tuesday. I don't know, I'll have to see, but I've got so many different spots plotted out that I would hope they're. You know, let's hope that a lot of them are open and not just one, but maybe so, maybe not, who knows. So we'll see how that. We'll see how that we'll see. We'll see who, what, how that all goes.
Speaker 1:But I did put out podcast last year right after fourth of july because I've had people talk about like all the holidays are not the best time to camp and I'm like actually in my like again. I think people go to so many events and there's so much other stuff to do around Memorial Day and Labor Day and Fourth of July, like summer holidays. I have not had problems but and I hate doing this because it is it is something I dislike greatly. And I don't mean to like throw anyone. You know I have friends that do it and whatnot but like the more, more years we go here and the more people that sell locations on YouTube, the more skeptical I am that my spots will be available on these holidays and stuff, because the fact that you can just find a spot, you don't have to look for it, you know, like I spent all this time looking for spots and mapping spots and it's like work. It's like work a little bit.
Speaker 1:Like I've gone on trips, complete trips. Last year I went on a trip the whole entire weekend, me and my friend johnny. All we were doing was scouting, like we spent two days scouting camp spots, trails, you know, taking notes, finding ways around what's closed, what's not, what's mapped, that's closed, that's not. Annotating is closed, so that we could annotate it because we're looking for spots for a later trip we're going to take with some friends. So it's a lot of time, like there's a lot of time put in and and it. You know, and and I'm not saying the people that are giving the spots away aren't putting that time in. Obviously they are, I mean, or they wouldn't have the spots either, but they give them away with, like subscription and stuff.
Speaker 1:And so I always get a little like leery, like now that it's so easy you could leave, essentially, and be to a spot that you got from someone's something Patreon or whatever people do you know. However, you can subscribe to stuff and have access to their files or locations or whatever, and they could just, you know, they don't have to explore. And so now I just don't know and I don't subscribe to any of those people's stuff, you know, to get their locations and whatnot. So I don't know what spots there are. So I don't know if, like, I'm about to roll up on them. You know America's most wanted spot, I don't even know. So I'm like man, I gotta have like five, like kind of in a vicinity and, and you know, one of them will usually work, but more and more, the good one is not going to work because there are free sites but they're sold. You know, somebody's, somebody's selling those locations and I always am.
Speaker 1:I still like that, guys, I it's tough for me because I want people to get outside and I don't want everybody to like I don't want to be like, oh, you got to work for it, but like also, I just don't want it to be so accessible that, like, anybody and everybody knows where they're at, it's a catch 22. I just don't know. I just don't know how to don't know how to feel about it, but like I just don't know how to feel about it. But like I just don't know how to feel about it, it's a tough one for me and I don't want to feel a way about it just because it affects me getting to the spots. I also don't want the public lands not being used. I don't know, I'm just kind of going through the conundrum out loud with you guys here. It's tough for me. It's just tough for me. Like I put in a ton of work to find these spots, but it is public land and it's public. But then people are also making money off the public land, which then that seems kind of weird to me or like backwards. But I don't know that. I would, you know, if everybody gave them all away for free. Well, that's also probably not a great idea. It's tough for me. That's a tough subject.
Speaker 1:I talked about it. I talked about it at more expo. We did like a live podcast and we talked about it and I just I it puts a bad taste in my mouth, but that doesn't. I also couldn't tell you what I think is a better idea. You know it is public land and public is public. You know I'm not mad that anybody knows where the courthouse is. That's public. Like you know, the library, I don't know, I don't know why I'm attached to it in that way or why I feel that way about it, but I do and I, you know, I can't control it, that's all and it just. Maybe that's a good, maybe I have, maybe that's me, maybe I have a problem with that. Maybe that's my problem, because I can't control who ends up with that information or what they're doing with the spots. But again, I'm not the public land police either. It's public.
Speaker 1:You're american, american, you live here, you can use it. Which brings me to another point. I'm in Chicago. This is what I do all the time. You guys know it, it's what you're here for. Kind of go on a tangent.
Speaker 1:But I was in a group the other day and they were like I want to have air conditioning, he and I have a generator. Like I'm going to something I'm assuming there wasn't a lot of information given outside the question, I'm assuming going to camp with a group or somewhere at a vet something, and they have air conditioning in their tent or their trailer excuse me, trailer and they were like, in order to run their conditioner, I want to run my generator. You know what? What's you know appropriate? You know, do I, do I stay with the group? Do I get away from the group? Blah, blah, blah.
Speaker 1:And I had a conversation about this with another friend and I was like you know, like I don't love generators and I'm particularly running, but at the love generators, particularly running, but at the same time, like same thing. Like I just said, I'm not the public land police. Like if you go to a spot and there's. So if you go to a spot and you're not a trailer person and there's a trailer person there and they're running their heat or air conditioning or whatever their whole thing, and there there's a generator running, who's really the a-hole? Them that's doing it or you that has a problem with it? When you just go somewhere else, like they're getting out, they're doing what they could do. That's how their stuff runs. So is going and parking near them and complaining the right move? I think not. Like I told him I was my friend, I was talking to about it.
Speaker 1:I was like you know, like play stupid. I said play stupid games, win stupid prizes. If the stupid game you played is to go to a campground where there's trailers and those trailers are using generators, that's your stupid prize, your stupid prize. Listen to the generator, deal with it like the world's not, like you're not that important, the world doesn't revolve around you. And I was like if you're in the back country and you want to go to a camp in a field or a very well-known spot, open spot, if somebody comes up and they're rolling a generator. Like well, you earned that. Like, go elsewhere, go somewhere. Like well, you earned that. Like, go elsewhere. Go somewhere where it's harder, where a trailer Like you want to know how you don't end up with trailers with generator problems.
Speaker 1:Don't go places trailers can go, you know. Go elsewhere. Remove yourself from the thing you have a problem with. Don't expect the people around you to cater to what you don't like. You know I'm not ever going to be like I want to camp in a. You know I'm going to camp in a large group of people in a field and somebody's running a generator and I chose to be there in that situation and now want them to cater to my likes. That's never going to be how I roll. Like I'm never going to be complaining about it. Like because if I got enough time to complain about it, I got to have time to pack up my stuff and just go to a different spot or go further away.
Speaker 1:And also people get butthurt about that, like the people with the generator. Like, get butthurt about that. Guys, stop worrying about every freaking body else or expecting everybody else to worry about you. Do your thing, man. Like again, I said that's what I said to my friend I was like I'm not the public land police. I'm not telling people what they can or can't do. Like you can go out in the Ozarks to shoot guns 24 hours a day.
Speaker 1:Like a generator is not illegal. Like it's just not. Like if they, if they want to run their generator, they can run their generator. If you want to be up till three or four in the morning playing music, you can do that too. Like they might not like that, you might not like this. That's what it is, though.
Speaker 1:Like, and if you don't like it, just go elsewhere. Not with a bad taste in your mouth, not calling anybody any names or being mad with animosity. Like we got to. Like what the heck is wrong with us all? That everybody thinks that. Like they got to ask to be themselves in all these situations when nobody's doing anything wrong. Like like running a generator is not wrong, disliking it's not wrong.
Speaker 1:Well, moving away from people that are running their generator, is it rude? Like they're not rude for running it? Like you're not rude for being up late, like it. All of these things are okay, no matter who does or doesn't like it. So I just don't know where we end up where, like there's, there is no authority. The only authority is the forest service and there's rules, but those rules don't have curfews, those rules don't have sound. You know violations, like nothing that I'm bringing up right now is against the ruse, so I'll just leave it at that, like I don't know who you are that now hates me or or who you are that needed to hear that or whatever. But you know choices and consequences, not like I don't know. I just saw so many comments. They're like camp away from the group and I was like. I was like I mean, what makes the group that doesn't have a generator more important than the guy that does? Like I don't know if it's that big of a deal to you, don't be by it.
Speaker 1:I don't know that I would be telling other people what to do based on my likes. I'd, I'd I'd make the situation for myself the way I want it, not expect someone else to. You know, I don't expect everybody to. I don't expect everybody to wake up at six o'clock in the morning just because I do. You know, in life that's the same thing. Like no, no, you have to get up. When I get up because I like it, and when I go to bed, you go to bed. I don't know you, but you do what I want because I'm, you know, authority, like I'm zeus. You know what is this? What's wrong with you? People like what the what is wrong with y'all?
Speaker 1:I've heard a million times I've been up late at events and people like there's kids and I'm like, don't bring them. Then, like I didn't pay all this money to come to this event, hang out with my friends and I'm sorry that it avenged you that we talk, but like I didn't come here to cater to your needs and wants. You know events have rules too. Like I get it, and that's Rend. Rendezvous is a good, perfect example of this. Rendezvous has like a family area and a and a it's I think it's called like family friendly and night out. But I've been in the night out area and people are yelling like keep it down. And I'm like, dude, you're not for this, this is not for you. Like, like you just need to, not like I don't know how to explain this right, but like you just need to, not like I'm not over there pissing and complaining that you went to bed early.
Speaker 1:Don't be mad that I'm not. I mean, I don't think we're being me and my friends are definitely not being belligerent. But the quieter it gets in, you know, out out, outside, the more stuff carries. But I'm also not trying to be quiet, like you know, cause it's just not the way it is. Everybody can do what they want. This is America, that's public land, freedom, all of the above, like, I'm not mad, you're doing what you want. I don't expect you to be mad. I'm doing what I want. You know, outside of safety, you know, don't be doing anything dangerous. But keeping somebody, you know making somebody a generator isn't unsafe for my wellbeing. Noise is not unsafe for my wellbeing. Past, you know, 10 at night, because you think it is.
Speaker 1:It just is crazy to me, man. It just blows my freaking mind and I do start to get kind of like angry about it, cause I'm like who are you Like? I'm not here telling you that you need to not be doing what you're doing, but who are you to think you could tell me what to do too, or who is anybody to think they could tell anybody what to do? Like? This is insanity to me, me, which is why I say like I don't like people selling, selling locations, but like at the same time, like who am I to? Who am I to did? I'm not the freaking patreon. You know? Onyx file, please. I don't like it, but that doesn't mean I'm gonna. I don't know, there's nothing I can do about it, so I gotta just be. You know what that means to me in my mind. This is how I view it.
Speaker 1:For you guys to get like, I'm like man, I just gotta find more spots like that's where I find these, to find these folks that are doing that, and I'm like I gotta go more, I gotta look more, I gotta find cooler spots that just they don't know about. And then you know they're out there, build my truck to go further than they can go, all of these things. That's that's where my mind goes like well, I did like that spot, we had a good run, and now and look at the video, it's like now, you know, thousands of people know about it. So so usually I'll I have spots marked in red, because YouTube's logo is red on, like YouTubers I've seen as spots I've found, and I usually mark like saw on YouTube. You know, have a backup type thing, cause you just never know, you just never know.
Speaker 1:I've also been out in public lands where people roll up on a spot that I'm at. Here's just another, another scenario. I'm going to continue to go down this thought process. People roll up on me, I'm camping in public land area and there's room for more rigs, and people come up and they're like can we camp here? I'm like, you don't have to ask me nothing. If you start camping here and I don't like it, I'll leave. It's not for me to tell you you can't. It's for me to decide what I'm comfortable with. I always tell people I'm like you're fine.
Speaker 1:But then if I ever pack up because I don't want to be around a bunch of people, they're like well, you said and I'm like bro, it's not you Like, it doesn't have anything to do with you. You have every right to this, as much as I do. I wanted to be alone, so I just need to go find a place to do that. But it's not up to me to tell you you can't be here, you know. So it's a real weird thing, because people will, they'll be like, they'll be like you know, no, we got, and I'm like no, you don't like what? No, what, I could camp here too. Like, like, I don't know, I don't. I don't know, maybe I'm the weird one, maybe I'm like super weird to be like not asking. But I'm also not asking because it's not like we're seated at a table at a book than a private place. Like it's, this is freaking public. Like I don't have to ask anybody to do anything in this space. I mean, be reasonable, don't be like up on top of people just as a common courtesy, but like also, I mean, it's wild to me, man, it's a wild, wild time and it creates a lot of. It creates a lot of um, it creates more enemies than friends.
Speaker 1:I think in a lot of ways because people have the wrong mindset about how this all actually works. You know where everybody could be coming together and be like, yeah, come on, who are you? Come on, you know what's up. You know, let's get to know each other a little bit, have a drink. You know, maybe you got your group and you're doing your own fire, but you guys kind of go back and forth. Whatever I mean, and again, if you're the one that's uncomfortable with it, you should leave the situation. You shouldn't make somebody else not not be in the city. Like public public land in this it's like public public land, public land like public areas, public use. You can't. I mean, you could tell people whatever you want, but then you're the you kind of are the problem. So just leave it at that. I'll just leave that at that. But yeah, go listen.
Speaker 1:Anyways, before I go on too long, go listen to my buddy, corey, over on Newfound Overland and uh, yeah, man, he's super cool dude. Go check out Zach Outdoors. They got a some an announcement coming out tomorrow, 4th of July. Go follow him. You probably get a notification, maybe I assume. Um, yeah, go check it out. I, I'll be camping. Hopefully you guys get out camping. If you don't get camping, rip some sleeves off a shirt and go blow up some M eighties and, you know, bald Eagle out. That's what I do. So I'm going to do and, uh, I'll catch you guys. I'll catch you guys later and have a happy fourth.
